On tonight's program, Michael Collins Piper received a surprise phone call from Sam Danner, the Maryland man who says that he was on the scene when an airborne vehicle struck the Pentagon on September 11, 2001. Danner had been a guest on Piper's program several times and incited much controversy from those who say—including Danner's own son—that Danner was not there at the time of the incident. Danner responded to critics who said that he was not a licensed pilot by pointing out that he has been flying various planes since he was 16 in the company of licensed pilots but that he has never actually gotten a pilot's license and that when he actually applied for a license several years ago he was denied for physical reasons. Danner also said that he would be willing to go on the air publicly with his son and discuss the matter. In the meantime, three callers phoned in to urge Piper not to discuss the Danner story further, suggesting that there were bigger issues to discuss, such as the fact that "The Vatican Controls Everything." Piper disagreed with the caller who suggested that, saying, "I don't believe that," adding later, "The Vatican didn't do it. Let me repeat that: The Vatican didn't do it." However, one caller came on board to say that the Danner affair should be discussed further. Piper pointed out that he has been accused by many critics of talking too much on his program, about the pernicious influence of Israel's lobby in America. Although Piper recognized that there are some listeners who don't want to hear about the Danner story, there are other people who do.